Monday, March 14, 2005

Feedback for The Dying of Delight

This is the chance for you to have your say.

I started this page because I'd received tons of feedback, both in email form and in threads on the Big Chill forum.

To be fair, the threads and the emails were directed at me from friendly well-wishing people, so they were more likely to be positive than negative.

Still, I think they speak for themselves. And now I'm throwing it wide open. Please do add your own thoughts and impressions. I'm always eager for feedback - be it good or bad.

You can also read proper reviews written by impartial professional-type people. They're rather good, too.

The book is now out of print. If you haven't got one yet, you can buy a signed copy of the book direct from me. This is the only way I get income from it. The publisher has ceased trading, so royalties are now non-existent.

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44 Comments:

June 2nd 2004, 6:14pm

so i finally finished the book, sitting topless in the sunshine by my bedroom window. which seemed appropriate. (shielded from innocent passers by, i hasten to add)

i was sitting in my attic feeling sundrenched and sexy which felt right for it even though by the end I was full of dark shivers that were spooky but also kind of thrilling at the same time.

i thought it was pretty Gothic, actually. and I enjoyed it. it really made me want to keep reading right from the start which is pretty rare for me. i really wanted to know what happened next. and i liked the drug descriptions very much - found it very refreshing to read something that felt realistic for a change, as well as effectively and evocatively written.

in terms of feedback, my highest plaudit is "it had me totally gripped, i couldn't wait to find out what happened next". seriously. (i think in storytelling generally that's the highest level to aspire to, where you CARE enough to find out what happens next) i just find so few books draw me into their world. and this did.

Kit Patrick

1:31 PM  

June 3rd 2004, 8:18am

The Dying of Delight...

Is really bloody good! Nearly finished it now and it's rollicking along at a cracking pace. Could hardly put it down to do any work this morning.

Nice work!

Viv

x

1:32 PM  

June 3rd 2004, 8:26am

I was well pissed off about having to get off the bus this morning. Why oh why are we wasting time developing weapons systems when we could be concentrating on eyelid books so you can read at work?

Duck

1:33 PM  

3rd June 2004, 9:21am

i too have spent every break this morning with my nose in it.

I'm not sure what i expected, as i have never actually known an author before ..... its very good, all the way! x

sunflower kate

1:36 PM  

4th June '04, 8:18am


I too am nearly finished - ended up like a wrinkled prune by staying in the bath too long absolutely engrossed.

I am loving the way you start to think 'oh right so that's that bit of the mystery solved' and you think you've got the plot sussed and then its whipped out from under you.

Very, very good!

Mel

xx

1:36 PM  

28th May 2004, 3:06pm

I am enjoying it muchly.

One of the things I like most about it so far is that the character's sexualities just are. There's no big 'I am Silver and I am a lesbian' thing, you just find out as the story unfolds.

Its also a perfect book for someone like me who reads too quickly cos if you skip you miss a vital bit and then you have to go back and try and work out which bit you missed so its slowing me down a bit.

I am also enjoying the dialogue - though in places its a bit like reading the Big Chill forum at its busiest and most wittiest. Fun but waring after a bit.

All in all a good lunchtime read.

Mel

xx

1:50 PM  

I have just finished The Dying of
Delight. I thought it was absolutely great.

I was expecting something completely different - even though I quite often listen to Woman's Hour (I always have Radio 4 on when in the car), I'd got a case of the mental stereotype (it's on Woman's Hour, so it's like this...).

It was also vastly different from the kind of fiction I typically read - my immediately previous four fiction authors were Alfred Bester, John Mortimer, Robert Rankin and Terry Pratchett to give a flavour, though I did read quite a lot of Ian McEwan in my youth.

What worked for me so well was the way you gradually built up the suspicion of what had happened, but kept it fluid enough to be uncertain to the end - the "three layer" approach helped a lot in that. I have to confess, when I first hit it I thought "unnecessary arty randomness" but I couldn't have been further from the truth.

It really vindicates for me how valuable it is to read outside your natural inclinations. When Penguin brought out those little 60p books a while ago they did a boxed set with 60 of them in, which I bought and read end to end on the theory it was a great way to read stuff I wouldn't dream of picking up off the shelf, and similarly it was a useful kick out of habit.

Anyway - big thumbs up for DoD.

Brian Clegg
(author of "A Brief History of Infinity" and many other popular science books)

2:36 PM  

Finished your book! Blimey, missus! The really weird thing was that I’d left it for a little while (work reading getting in the way) and then picked it up at just the place when it all seemed really relevant to me. It was magic! What a rollercoaster in the end. Bloody hell. Absolutely brilliant work, Clare. More, please!

Anette Dal Jensen
xxxxxxxxx

2:30 PM  

7th Sept 2004, 10:16am

I got shivers when she had her “revelation”. When she realized that she shouldn’t be looking after people to the extent that she’d mother them. You probably didn’t even mean to write that – it was just the way I read it, but it was really powerful. Like, her own confusion and misery made it so she desperately wanted to help XXX. Little did she know, in the end, that X craved her help, too. Have you seen the film “Breaking the Waves”? Silver reminded me of an urban, modern version of Bess on acid. Ha ha.

Quite tragic though and I really didn’t take to Niamh that much. Ha ha. I loved Milo though. Grumpy git.

There were a couple of other bits, but they’re sort of part of the “whole” now so it’s hard to pin down. Oh, and “skan up”? Hahahahahahahahahhahaaa!

Anette Dal Jensen

2:31 PM  

September 2004

i think 'The Dying of Delight' is a fantastic book! much more than a story, very innovative writing!

Maya Chowdhry (playwright)

2:33 PM  

September 2004

my mum's reading your book and LOVING it!"

Savannah Morris

2:34 PM  

7th June 2004, 9:38am

Bloody brilliant!

As I was saying to someone about it yesterday it was like having a laid table with loads of tablecloths on it and everytime I thought I'd worked the plot out Clare whipped another cloth away. And the clsoer I got to the end the faster the cloths were being pulled till even now I'm still puzzling bits.

I want to read it again now I know the ending so I can appreciate just how clever the plot is - how Clare plays with your assumptions throughout.

Without trying to sound too 'wanky' I have, by chance, been reading The Unbearable Lightness of Being at the same time (I always read several books at the same time - drives my boy mad) and last night as I got to the end of TULOB I was struck by some of the similarities of themes in the two books.

Destiny, control, co-incidence, the discussion of whether 'heavy' or 'light' is best and which one modern society is striving for.

It is a fantastic book, can't wait for the next one!

Mel

xx

1:54 PM  

13th June 2004, 6:39pm

I've just finished reading your book and I thought I'd email you and let you know what I thought of it ! The bloody cheek, eh ? :) Here goes...

So as not to keep the reader in suspense, forcing her to endure literally minutes of agonizing "did he like it or not" drama, let me first say that I genuinely enjoyed the book. No, really ! It took me about 4 hours to read it across two sittings - one hour last Tuesday when I received the book and three hours this afternoon. This is pretty good going for me (at least with non-technical works !). For the record, it took me about that length of time to get 30 pages into "The Life Of Pi" before giving up on it - so I hereby award you next year's Booker prize.

Not that it was all plain sailing, mind you. I found it quite difficult to get into without having a suitable frame of reference - and the parts written in the future tense were tedious to begin with. However, towards the middle of the book I found myself being drawn into it and by the end I was gripped.

Initially I mentally compared your book to the movie "Memento" (good movie, if you haven't already seen it then you should :) for it's fragmented narrative style - but that was a lazy comparison and, as I read on, I found a much better parallel. There's a movie called "Requiem for a Dream" (directed by Darren Aranofsky, who also directed "Pi") which I have in the past described as "Trainspotting without the laughs". Basically (and being deliberately vague so as not to spoil it if you haven't seen it - and you should 'cos it's great !), a group of people get involved in drugs in various ways and slowly but surely their lives turn to shit. The plot, however, only has passing similarities to your book. As the story unfolds, stylistically the movie gathers pace. As the character's lives spiral out of control, the film spirals with it and is a disorienting blur of brief scenes, quick edits and sparse dialogue. As your book continues, it seems to gather pace in the same way. Sequences are shorter and more disorienting (though not unintelligible), the prose becomes more stylised and clipped (I used to get moaned at by my English teacher at school for doing exactly the same thing !!!) and the storylines, past, present and future, collide at the resolution in a most satisfying way.

This may, of course, be total bullshit - but put Tom Paulin's accent on it and it lends it a bit of credibility ;)

So there you go. I loved your book.

Glenn Davies

1:57 PM  

9th June 2004, 11:07pm

I feel like going back and reading your book again, I read it compulsively because I needed to know what happened and who was Edna really (I guessed about half-way through but then you made me change my mind several times!), now I feel like reading it at a slower pace. I really enjoyed it!

Mandy (from Tmesis)

1:58 PM  

June 2004

Alison is currently reading your book at the moment and I'm next in line. She keeps lowering the book and saying 'Wow this is good y'know' then carrying on. So I'm looking forward to it!

Grant Randall

1:59 PM  

18th June 2004, 10:34pm

I did enjoy the book. I thought (smugly, wrongly) XXX was Silver right up to the end. which I am sure is what you meant the reader to think.

Samir Dawlatly

2:01 PM  

23rd June 2004, 5:18pm

I read your book over a weekend and thought it was very interesting and I didn't guess the ending (I knew somebody died but not which woman). So well done for that. It was interesting to picture your house and Bagpuss and the British Legion too. Who was the character of Andy based on? Was the 'handsome man in a kilt' your Ally by any chance?

A jolly good read and I've already given two copies away so that others can read it too.

Kate Williams

2:01 PM  

21st June 2004, 4:15pm

i've just read the chapter starring my car!!!
Although the woman that gets out of the car I recognised as definitely you, not me. :-) your council worker personna.

I enjoyed your book by the way :-)
Kept me guessing about who was dead in the cellar though!
Felt sure it was going to be XXX, and then she got up..

Andrea Thompson

2:03 PM  

June 2004

i read the book btw! very vivid acid fuelled headscrewy stuff - with some wicked wordage!

Susanna Glasier

2:07 PM  

1st July 2004, 8:52pm

I have a terrible habit at the moment of not finishing books, and always seem to end up with 3 or 4 on the go at once. So I disciplined myself and was determined to finish my current book ("No Logo" - great, if a tad heavy), before starting yours. Last night I picked up your book for an idle flick (oo-er), ended up reading a few chapters, and now I can't put it down.

Aaagh ! Looks like I'll never finish "No Logo" at this rate - it's been usurped, innit ?

So yeah, a great read Clare - I particularly identified with the scene in the office where the main character is having a heated argument with a right wing colleague. I think we've all been there....

x
Rod Devonshire

2:08 PM  

August 2004

Enjoying v much so far.

You're a novelist and no mistake. (can't stand Americanisms, but...)

Way to go!

Chris.
X

2:11 PM  

August 2004

I've just finished it, bizarrely, on the verandah of a cocktail bar
alongside a beach in Antigua.

I was engrossed in the final pages of one of the last few chapters yesterday evening when a large American said "excuse me sir but I if you don't come inside now you're going to get very wet", but I persevered and was the last
person under cover when the tropical storm broke a couple of minutes later. "Must be a damn good book" he said a bit later.

I'll echo that.

(I gave him the details and suggested he get it from those 'stards at Amazon btw.)

I really did enjoy it - do you think you've found your true vocation? I do. Look forward to the next one.

Chris.
X

2:12 PM  

I've just finished it in the park at lunchtime, sitting in the sun. I was late back from lunch cos I was desperate to finish it!

Briiiiiiiillllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnttttttttttt

I LOVED it. Well done you. You should be really really proud of yourself. I had no idea of the twist until it happened, I was even thinking, XXX can't be Silver cos YYY's met Silver...but I still didn't get it.

It was weird at times cos I kept remembering that I knew the author and that made me wonder how much of it was based on your experience...but that just made it all the better.

Anyway, enough gushing...glad to hear you're gonna work on No 2 and I hope you get to see some riches from No 1!

Savannah Morris
xxxxxx

2:13 PM  

Autumn 2004

I've spent half the w/e reading your book - it's very good. I was just up to the bit where XXX gets hit by the beam when my tram pulled in to the stop this morning, so I had to speed-read to the end of the chapter just so I could get off! Silver's spiralling is so well described - it's made me think a lot, having been the girl who leaves the good job at the IT company to pursue her destiny, realises she's not sure what it is, gets very depressed working in a part-time minimum wage job and ends up back behind a different desk doing a very similar job but in a slightly less alien sector... Not doing the compulsive tripping part was probably a good move though (mmm, compulsive eating for me!).

Jo Nightingale
xx

2:15 PM  

Autumn 2004

"Delightful delight"

Just a quick one to say how much I enjoyed TDOD which I finished a couple of weeks ago. As I don't read much fiction these days I'm no critic but I found it a really gripping read. The acid paranoia you conjure up towards the end is fantastic and I've recommended it to a friend who spent 20 years in the 'acid casualty ward'- a place that exists in the mind. Incidentally he's fine now. Your verbal imagery was very powerful throughout, excellent word play and some very memorable phases. In the end we all kill ourselves. Mind-blowing and profound stuff indeed. Keep up the great work
Cheers
John Crumpton

2:16 PM  

27th Aug 2004, 09:49am

I'm currently reading your book and REALLY enjoying it!

Its a bit strange tho, cos there's quite a few things in it I can strongly associate to. Is any of it based on true events? (Apart from the stone circle obviously).

Fantastic read!

Booraptor

2:20 PM  

24th Aug 2004, 11:26am

I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed your book. I started reading it last sunday and ended up staying in from the pub to finish it in one sitting - i really, really liked it. so thanks for writing it!

Sara Clarke

2:21 PM  

I have done my homework and read your book. A strange experience as my life has spiralled into mentalness that almost parallels the book.

I could relate to lots of the book in an uncanny way. I don't know how much of it is based on reality but I too had a penchant for taking lots of acid on a regular basis (not every day though as I built up a resistance to it). Maybe every week for a few years. Until it totally did my head in. Although I got away with doing it every year at the EG which was lovely.

Also one of the things that most blocks my creativity is fear of letting go too much and descending into madness. My dad is a painter and was quite mad (manic depressive and alcoholic amongst other things) for most of my childhood and we are very similar (his birthday is the day after mine so we share a star sign). He is from the Van Gogh school of crazy artists - he's mellowed now but he was really that mad a lot of the time. So I have become a control freak instead. I've never heard or read someone else voice that fear so it was interesting to read about it in your book.

One more funny thing, I liked the story about the hippy author doing a reading. I guess it is based on CJ Stone who I used to read avidly in the Guardian years ago. I read his books too - the first one starts with a festival that a friend of mine organised (and that I was at). Never met him but he seems like a nice chap. Last year by total fluke I heard that Jim Dodge was doing a reading at the local Waterstones. I went on my own (although I've given Stone Junction to everyone I know I couldn't find anyone free to come that night). He was nothing like I'd imagined him to be, a little bearded old man in sensible shoes with a speech impediment (or ill fitting dentures). I was expecting some kind of heroic looking biker or something. He did a reading about his dog's bollocks getting stuck in the plughole which was very funny and even better, a reading from the novel he's been writing for the last few years. It was some kind of magical detective story. At the end I shyly went up to him and asked him to sign my incredibly dog eared copy of Stone Junction. I was so in awe that I ran away afterwards. I wish I'd invited him back to mine for a drug binge but the babies were tiny and I don't think he'd have had it in him.

Oh also when I was reading your book I kept on thinking that you sound like a cancerian so I looked up the date of the moon landing and figured that you must be.

Love [anonymous]x

Note from Clare:
I've left that one anonymous, cos of the personal details.
She's right, the character Neep is indeed partially based on CJ Stone, who I've met (briefly) and is an absolute sweetie.
I'm also a big fan of Jim Dodge, who is another sweetie. And a poet.
She's right about me being a Cancerian, too. Which is weird, cos I don't even believe in that stuff.

2:28 PM  

November 2004

I was going to do loads on Saturday - mainly things involving spending money on things I didn't need and cleaning areas of the house which can wait.....

However I woke up after a hefty lie-in and picked up the Dying of Delight - I was half way through and from then on I found myself unable to put it down and read the rest in one sitting.

It was excellent, I got thoroughly immersed in it. Poor Silver - I loved Silver. That was so sad, things had gone a bit to pot for her but it seemed like she was slowly pulling her head together and she would have been okay in the end as she was enjoying herself with all her art and her new friend Andrea.

I had an image of Jonah being a big guy, built like a rugby player - sort of gentle giant just wondering around the house and letting himself in. :)

Twisty turney afternoon engulfing spend & cleaning stopping brilliant book.

If you're not already or you're at all unsure (and without wanting to sound all patronising or sycophantic) you should be really proud of yourself. YAY! for the author that is Clare Sudbery....

Now get writing!.........

That's all I have to say

Love and afternoons lost in a world you created.

Sarah Faust
xxx

2:39 PM  

8th March 2005

I'll give you my first impressions. Your book gave me a chance to say 'blow it!' to all the things I had planned on doing last night. So I lay in bed for three and a half hours reading your book and eating cheese and feeling naughty.

I think it's great so far (I'm almost at the end, chapter 25). To be honest, looking at the book I didn't think I'd enjoy it because I don't really like surreal stuff and I'm also not a big fan of thrillers but your book is really easy to read and enjoyable. I picked the mystery identity angle quite early, I think. Though I am hanging to know what becomes of Silver. The XXX storyline was inspired, I didn't pick it at all! See also: YYY. Brilliant. I was sitting on the bus reading and thinking how the character of ZZZ was so nice, because he was so chilled and just kind of drifted in and out and then felt slightly foolish that I hadn't guessed because as soon as I read the scene where she thinks he is dead a lightbulb tinged above my head and I immediately remembered the clues earlier.

I enjoy the way she talks to herself and puts herself down. And also how she often pretends there is a crowd cheering her on and thinking she is great when she does things. I loved when she was going around the round about.

Also I really like the way your chapters are numbered so it is quite clear that it is jumping between present/future. A lot of books like that don't do that and you spend half the book being confused in a bad way (ie not confused and puzzled about the story but confused because the story has been put together in a really rubbish way) but yours isn't like that at all, it's great.

Lisa Dempster

2:41 PM  

January 2005

I'm writing to say that I've read your book; what a stunner! It's very dark and clever. You've used some really good devices to build up tension and work the story into a mesh so that it hangs together well but keeps the reader wanting to turn over the pages. It made me go about feeling cold and scared for the characters. I also remembered how angry smashed people used to make me in the days when the dance drugs first came in. I never wanted to get away from reality as much as they did and I felt left out of the gang. Sometimes I couldn't work out what they were responding to because none of their experiences showed until they reacted to them. I really liked the way you got that across to the reader. The complex sexuality made me laugh. I've lived with characters as strange as any of the ones in your book and if we all opened our eyes properly we would see what an amazing range of ways there are of getting yourself sorted for a shag. As a psychiatric nurse I see all of it and love to campaign for people's right to do what they like and be allowed to feel normal. Well done for putting out something quite valuable in that respect.

Karen

2:43 PM  

5th Dec 2004

We had quite a high turn out the night we discussed your book, which was good, with several new members who had not had a chance to read the book beforehand.

To be honest several people found the narrative difficult to follow, although when people did like it, they really liked it, so it was a very mixed reaction. One person really liked your characterisations, finding Silver to be really likeable and sympathetic. People also really liked the cover!

Several people queried why your book had been published by Diva, as it is a lesbian press and there was little of this theme in the novel.

We had a good discussion about Diva books, as we had had another Diva author VG Lee to talk to us the previous month, who had told us how they are winding down their press, mainly concentrating on lesbian publising in general and if it is needed in todays society - the overall view was that it was important to support the lesbian press, if it is to continue to provide us with books which do not replicate the mainstream.

Best wishes.

Jo Harvey
Librarian, Reader Development
Brighton & Hove Libraries

2:46 PM  

[from a Big Chill forum thread explicitly asking for criticism, Nov 2004]

One major good thing for me: resonance with the 'scared of becoming like Mum bit'

One major bad thing for me: the twist at the end I found unconvincing.

Kirsty Chestnutt

2:49 PM  

[from a thread on the Big Chill forum explicitly asking for criticism, Nov 2004]:

Before making rash criticisms... i really enjoyed the book! and it has been a while since I read it.

I also found the ending a little unconvincing, and had pre-empted what was going to happen; which is a horrible personal trait, and probably nothing to do with the book!

Some of the descriptions of the mother reminded me of myself, which was interesting.

I loved the more ambiguous passages at the very end (am saying this - but it was ages that since I have read it... will look at it again tonight)

I know this isn't much of a critique, just a start until I get a chance to have another look.

Mrs Humm
x

2:50 PM  

[from a thread on the Big Chill forum explicitly asking for criticism, Nov 2004]:

Things I enjoyed about the book:

* I really enjoyed the structure of it. The future tense stuff was a real headfook to start with but once you got into it, it really altered the way you viewed the whole storyline. Like seeing an entire movie from reverse camera angle.

* I loved the Mother interludes. Really helped build up the tension.

* Your writing style in general is a joy to read. Silly bits of wordplay and munted conversations. It's like the difference between listening to a song for the music and listening to it for the lyrics. A lot of writers are all about the story and nothing about the writing, your book combined both.

Things that bothered me about the book:

* The ending was a bit of a let down. For characters who were so messy and unconventional, the ending felt neat and contrived.

* Some scenes felt like they'd been shoehorned into the narrative without helping move it along. In some cases I couldn't shake the feeling that there were events from your own experience which held some strong resonance for you but didn't quite translate through to the characters. Some of the latter scenes with Silver getting progressively more wasted for example.

Mark Brereton

2:52 PM  

[from a thread on the Big Chill forum explicitly asking for criticism, Nov 2004]:

you already know i really liked it, but i have to say i found the first chapter a bit hard going as i thought the dialogue was a bit stilted to start with, but it seemed to flow better as the book went on.

but then again i think phillip pullman's dialogue is a bit stilted too.

i really liked the twisty ending though..

Sara Clarke

2:53 PM  

[from a thread on the Big Chill forum explicitly asking for criticism, Nov 2004]:

Initially I found it hard to get into but that's more to do with me than you

The ending was a bit abrupt however I didn't see that twist coming to far in advance as i had been thinking that Edna was really Silver all along.

I love Silver - she's a great character and you get all of her in the book - warts and all.

I thought it was a great read and once i was into it I ploughed through the rest in an afternoon unable to put it down.

Sarah Faust
xxx

2:54 PM  

[from a thread on the Big Chill forum explicitly asking for criticism, Nov 2004]:

i really liked the bit when the nazi stormtroopers abseiled down the castle walls " like soldiers looking to have a right go".

and the bit where Truckule di Avioncciaci lists his favourite seafood restaurants of Krackow entirely in semaphore.

no. i haven't read it. i shall buy and make amends. promise.

armando

2:54 PM  

[from a thread on the Big Chill forum explicitly asking for criticism, Nov 2004]:

just finished it last night. loved it.

agree with Sara that some of the dialogue was maybe a bit stilted but I also agree with Mark that you have a great style, really entertaining to read in its own right as well as part of the narrative to a larger scale plot. lots in the rugs\control stuff that I identified with.

I thought the characters were well realised and 3-dimensional the fact that I found the two mains quite exasperating by the end is testament to that.

all in all bloomin good. when's the next one out then?

Jez Wells

2:55 PM  

[from a thread on the Big Chill forum explicitly asking for criticism, Nov 2004]:

I liked the cat.

I found some of the dialogue a bit hectic at times and a bit clunky some of the characters voices weren't 'real' all the time somehow - I don't know how to describe this better but when reading a script the easier bits are where you know how to play a line and some of the characters some of the time I wouldn't know how to play the line - mylo I found difficult. But I liked the dreamier druggier bits.

I liked the twist, it kept me guessing right up to the end.

I liked the structure too - the past and future thing.

I liked Silver but I wish I hadn't heard you read her words first Clare cos then she just looked and sounded like you in my head. I found it a bit difficult to relate to how she went suddenly into not caring - a slower move towards irresponsibility would have been better for me - but maybe that's more of a reflection on who I am than the writing.

I enjoyed it though and my boy read it too and siad it was a good read, for him it was more 'beach reading' cos he likes really heavy books.

Mel
xx

2:57 PM  

[from a thread on the Big Chill forum explicitly asking for criticism, Nov 2004]:

I thought it was a brilliant (excellent in fact) debut novel, but I felt it was slightly hesitant and not willing to take chances. You could tell that you'd had input from others, because at some places it didn't flow, which I assume was when you'd have to change, add or shorten something you weren't quite comfortable changing.

I think the main thing to take from this debut novel is that you now have an audience. First novels are probably more about the author "getting out there" than the novel itself, which is probably why they're often so personal.

I cannot wait for your second, third, fouth and fifth novel, Clare. You are not constraint by not knowing if your work is indeed publishable anymore or, gasp, if people will like it! Now you can really loosen the reigns on that fantastic imagination and get carried away there. By the sixth, you'll probably not speak with us mere mortals anymore anyway. Haha.

Now stop looking backwards and look forwards you nugget. You *know* what you'd like to change if you could.

Or something less patronising. You know what I mean.

Anette Dal Jensen
xxx

2:58 PM  

July 2004

so, just as i got into the bath, the doorbell rings. now, normally i'd ignore it, but i'm expecting some books from amazon. sure enough, it's the postman.

ok, got back into the bath, taking "the dying of delight" with me. now, normally i wouldn't even consider reading in the bath when i'm getting ready for work. but even when i do, i'm usually pretty good about keeping an eye on the time...

whoa. is it that late already?!?!?

it's a cracking read so far, and i'm barely into it. so, thank you very much. :)

...

just read "Dying of Delight". i highly recommend it.

Rach

3:07 PM  

July 2004

I just finished it and I was very disappointed.............

........that it's gonna be too long a wait before the next one.

"It's a proper book and jolly good."

I bet that quote ends up on the back of the second edition ;-)

Nellie

3:08 PM  

July 2004

I missed my stop on the tube.

Mark Brereton

3:09 PM  
Lisa Rullsenberg said...

Just finished reading it last night and have to say I was gripped to the end. I felt a real sense of compassion and interest in the characters - all their foibles and quirks - but especially for the intelligent way in which you dealt with conceptions of normality and madness.

When the phrase "the dying of delight" was first presented, I couldn't get out of my head the character of delirium from Neil Gaiman's Sandman novels: Delirium, who used to be Delight. The connection stuck with me through the rest of my reading and somehow really helped me understand the experiences of Edna and Silver.

When I got to the end Cloud (my partner) asked what's it about and I replied sex, drugs, madness, the ecilpse and gender identity. I think he was intrigued enough to pick it up (and I will certainly encourage him to do so!)

Well done Clare. This is a very fine debut novel.

8:52 AM  
TallSlim said...

I meant to do this weeks ago while it was fresh in my mind but life's been upside down (again).

Well I have to say that it was a stonking good story. I wasn't sure for the first couple of interlaced chapters. (I hadn't quite got the hang of them at first, especially with the use of the future tense in one thread.) Ah no wait...with three story lines it's more like interleaved, as in Reed Solomon coding rather than interlaced, as in video displays. Anyway ... I digress. (No change there, then!) I actually found those short chapters quite a handy way to be able to read when you just had a few minutes here and there.

Once I'd got the hang of that, the intrigue started and that was it... I was hooked. I'm sure you intended it to be obvious that the three storylines must come together as, otherwise, you've got three books for the price of one. Exactly how they would was a delicious slice from a cake of anticipation!

The novelty of Edna in her first 'close encounter' in the woods set me guessing, though it transpired in the end that I had guessed correctly. The only thing there that gave me pause for thought was the notion that I've never been aware of someone being able to undergo such transformation at such short notice with so nearly complete a degree of success as implied here, though that does help to disguise the storyline even more, of course.

The double twist was very satisfying too. It was becoming obvious who the two characters involved in the climax would be ... but which was which? Classic!

Well - you've got me reading fiction for the first time in....er... can't remember. Probably 20 years or so. Well done!

I was thinking while part way through about how this would look on film (as I often do about these things) but it wouldn't really work as it would be obvious who was who if you could see them. At about the time I was pondering that, I was reading passages with lots of quoted text and was finding it a touch tricky when there were three or more people involved and musing on how much easier it would be to work out if we could see them. Something along these lines:
"Where have you been?"
"Down to the shops"
"You?"
"Nowhere"
"Oooh look!"
Trying to work out who was saying what to whom was quite intriguing sometimes, though I suppose it saves having to quote things like:
"Where have you been?", asked Joe. "Down to the shops", replied Mary. "You?", she added. "Nowhere", he confirmed. "Oooh look!", Tom ejaculated. (as opposed to "Oooh look! Tom ejaculated." which would be a completely different story, of course! (The significance of misplaced punctuation, eh?!)

Anyway ... enough rambling by me for now! TTFN.

9:22 PM  
Rob said...

Here's what I put on amazon about TDOD:

Although it's published by Diva and therefore marketed as 'lesbian lit' this novel is much more than that. Indeed, the sex scenes aren't what I remember most. The seriously weird art installation, Silver handcuffing her boss to a radiator, Milo's flexible face, the bad trip described in increasingly fragmented prose which mirrors the character's mental state, the dog that eats the lump of cannabis - those are memorable. At the heart of the plot is a dead body (but whose?) There are so many false trails and so much misdirection that I doubt whether you'll completely untangle who did what to whom before Ms Sudbery is good and ready to tell you. She makes good use of a (genuine) Peak District eco-protest site as a major location, and keeps the various parallel strands of narrative separated by a clever Iain Banks-like use of different tenses (past/present/future). Some unlikely events in the book are apparently based on real events in her life, while some more easily believed ones are wholly fictional, which all adds to the feeling of dissociation and unreality that drifts off the pages like a fog.
And anyone with a teenage daughter will surely warm to this description: "Her bedroom floor wasn't visible. Instead I could see piles of clothing and paper, layered like a lasagne with an occasional dirty mug as a chunk of pepper."

Authors who go on to greatness frequently underperform a bit on their first attempts ("Northanger Abbey"; "Grimus") and while "The Dying Of Delight" isn't in the literary Premier Division it can hold its head up proudly alongside most authors' first novels. I believe Clare Sudbery is currently working on her second. Buy it when it comes out. But for now, buy this one. You won't regret it.

12:33 AM  
Zinnia Cyclamen said...

Context: I am writing this feedback, having read the book (natch) but not anybody else's feedback. (I scrolled down really fast!)

Feedback: I enjoyed the book enormously. I devoured it in three large chunks on separate occasions, the way I like to consume novels (all in one go is best, but not always manageable).

It left many pictures in my head. And while I was reading, I didn't always fully understand what was going on, but that wasn't a problem; I accepted it as part of the drug-fuelled style of the characters within the postmodernist structure of the novel. Then when I'd finished, I couldn't stop thinking about it, with scenes coming back to me and sparking thoughts like 'oh so THAT'S why she did that' and 'NOW I understand what that conversation was about'.

And the book works, for me, on a lot of levels. It's about many things: flawed friendships between flawed people; the self-destructiveness of the drug subculture; the effects on us as a social species of the way we each see life through our own unique filters; sexual identity and orientation; family, friendships, love, hate, life and death - and that's not all. In fact, there are so many layers to it that I think I'll have to go back and read it again in due course. And that's the best compliment I can offer to any book.

So thank you - it was a prize prize!

8:14 PM  
Clair said...

The Dying of Delight is a fantastically weird book. The story starts with Silver deciding to give up her job in a boring office, to become an artist. Of course, life isn't as simple as that, and Silver starts living more and more in a drug fuelled haze and we see as her life starts to leave her control.

Because of the way the story is told from a few different points in time, you know, fairly quickly into the book, of events that are going to happen, and then I found myself continuously trying to work out how, where, why, when and who. I thought that this style worked really well to keep the story moving along, to keep me increasingly interested.

I don't think this is going to be a book for everyone, but if you think you might like to read a book about a drugs, lesbians, ageing hippies, protests, insane mothers... then I definately reccomend this one.

9:21 AM  
Clare said...

Gordon McLean just posted this review on his blog (here):

"Where to begin? I wasn’t exactly sure what to expect, but any book that is described as “a spirited portrait of lives gone astray” is off to a pretty good start. The book tells the story of Silver and Edna, two women whose stories intertwine in many ways. It’s slightly odd in parts, exciting, funny and above all very well written.

Now I’ll admit that it took me a couple of chapters to get into, and now and again I’d lose the thread and have to re-read but those are minor annoyances. The first thing that caught my attention was the chapter numbers. 1, 17, 26, 2, 3, 18, 27, 4… and so on. Yet despite this odd numbering scheme the books flows well, the overlapping chapters merge and you barely notice the leap from one thread to the next. This is, in no small part, thanks to the wonderfully written main characters who slowly reveal themselves throughout the book. For me this was the strongest part of the book, and with each passing scenario I found myself mentally re-addressing the persona of each character.

The story itself is centred mainly around Silver, a young woman who gives up her day job and pretty much everything else to become an artist like her ever-so slightly insane mother (who features in the book despite being dead after jumping off the roof of the local British Legion hall). It also features a lot of drug taking and no small amount of social commentary, sex, and that’s all before you get to the darker parts of the book.

It’s kind of hard to describe the book as it’s not an out-and-out thriller nor is it purely a character study. It’s not wholly about death, or drugs, or love, or any other emotion, and it’s not set in a huge world with grand themes. What that does mean is that you get a very good picture of the life these people lead, the world they inhabit (and how limited it is for them) and it seems almost biographical at times (autobiographical maybe?).

I thoroughly enjoyed this, right up to the last few page-turning moments, and I whole heartedly recommend this to anyone who just loves reading."


[reprinted with Gordon's permission]

9:17 AM  
yclepta said...

The Dying of Delight really entertained me. I found it intriguing, surprising
and quite emotional. I had to keep reading it - your writing style
really pulled me along. It was not what I expected - it had greater depth. The drug-taking references got in the way a bit for me, however Silver's internal dialogue was so realistic - I related well to a lot of it.
An excellent modern novel.

10:35 PM  
birdychirp said...

I am writing this before reading anyone elses feedback - I ABSOLUTELY loved the book. I thought it was paced wonderfully, had a nice balance between the twist and not skimping on story as it went along. I loved all the characterisation as well, although I didn't love all the characters.

If I'm brutally honest, I wouldn't have bought this book if I'd seen it on the bookshelf as having had a dull RC childhood I wouldn't have felt I could relate to it at all. I read it as Clare is a friend of a friend. And I loved it MORE because it was so different to my experiences and I was still captivated by it.

Can't wait for book 2 Clare!

7:54 PM  
Hg said...

I thought it was great.

Started it with a sense of trepidation (there's nothing worse than feeling you have to read a book out of a sense of duty rather than enjoyment), but that was dispelled after the first few pages.

I think most of all I liked the imagery and your turn of phrase. The plot twists and turns were fun; I guessed about half of them and the others were a surprise. For example, I worked out who **** probably was a few chapters before you revealed it, but **** - ah, you fucker! - was a complete surprise. Don't recall when I last physically screamed at the book in my hands. (Were your ears burning a couple of Thursdays ago?)

I think my only criticism was that you have a stylistic habit of dropping in a teaser at the end of a paragraph or chapter and after a while it was a bit "oh, here she goes again". Not a particularly major complaint, but I could have done with less of that - just let a few of the surprises emerge naturally, maybe.

I would like to write more, but at the moment it has to be a case of doing the bare minimum. It's 11pm and I am stripping wallpaper...

11:35 PM  
Eddie Louise said...

Hi,

Rob (of Eine Kleine Nichtmusik) and I were discussing your book as we 'bagged a munro' (climbed a mountain in Scotland) last weekend and he asked me to email my thoughts to you.

First, I have never done drugs: I have never really felt comfortable with books, or movies, or comic books, or BLOGS where drugs are central. I grew up in one of those infamous American prudish, uptight households in rural Wyoming, 50 miles from the back of nowhere. No drugs, no sex, no drinking. I left Wyoming behind when I discovered sex and drinking, but never had the inclination nor the opportunity to try drugs. I do not consider myself a prude any longer, but reading a book about this type of culture equates to reading a book about a mute female goat farmer from outer Mongolia. It is from a culture alien and unfamiliar; it takes a particularly fine storyteller to make me feel welcome in that world. Your book is not the first book I have read where drugs played a major role, but it was the first where I actually identified with the characters. Your book is not a book about drugs. Nor is it a book about what drugs do to people (good or bad). Your book is about people. Who happen to take drugs. Well done.

Secondly, the character of ****: In my experience, most people who write about the Transsexual experience leave out the very real influence of male/female hormones and cultural conditioning in the emotional reactions of the characters. You managed to keep that element of the male/female in all this character's scenes (in either timeline) so when the penny dropped it felt entirely right. Wanting to be female/male does not make it so, a fact that many authors manage to ignore. I had specific scenes I wanted to mention, but I have already loaned out the book...

Thirdly, your voice: You have a very 'human' approach to prose that makes it a joy to read. The imagery is strong without being distracting, and the characters 'think' like real people.

Congratulations on finishing the 1st draft of novel #2. Good luck with the publish or not question! And thank you for sharing with us in your books and on your BLOG!

Eddie Louise

11:41 PM  
lynn said...

Wow that was some navigation just to post a comment, or was it me?
Anyway your book sounds great. I'm trying to get mine published (it's here on my list of blogs - Under A Train) so it's good to know it still does happen! I'm going back to look over more of your interesting blog. Thanks!

12:01 PM  
Clare said...

Cheers Lynn - enjoy!

1:10 PM  
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6:27 PM  
b said...

Hey. I just finished reading DofD this afternoon and wanted to say thanks :) I don't remember where I first found the link to the book, which is a shame, 'cause if I did I'd go back and say thank you :)

I didn't really buy the book because I thought I'd like it, as I just couldn't tell from the blurb. It was the comments, and a little bit of wanting to keep the karma flowing for when I write my book :) But I'm so glad I did :)

Will write you a good recommendation on my blog when I've had time to sort my thoughts out! For now, I'm looking forward to your next.

Oh, and *loved* the cat. And figured Edna out a couple of pages before it became clear. I am so proud ;)

8:37 PM  

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